buffer benefits?

[bobmcol]

Hi. Everybody raves on about the Porter Cable 7424. Is it really any better than any of the other makes? What about Festool? Or DeWalt? Or any non-brands? Do any of you have experience with anything else?

[hockeyplaya13]

Are you talking about the DeWalt rotary?

[TOGWT]

Alternative products-
a) A European (Germany) equivalent to the PC 7424/7336 is the Flex X1107VE. http://www.baukreis.de/produkte/inde...p=FX&s=&pg=199

b) Bosch Gex 150 Turbo 150mm Round Orbit Sander 240v –
Bosch Gex 150 Turbo 150mm Round Orbit Sander 240V :: 0601250783 :: Bosch Sanders

c) Flex XC 3401 VRG - Slim stick handle, high torque motor (4100W) light weight (4.85 lbs) and a practical bail handle. That is how to polish easily and effortlessly in every job. The accelerator trigger switch and speed selection (1100 – 3700) allow for a controlled acceleration to the optimal mixing speed - Welcome to FLEX North America

d) Groit’s Garage - Random Orbital (Mosay 8812) spins at higher orbits per minute (4,000 and 7,000) has a smaller polishing pattern, a rheostat speed dial for polishing and an internal fan to cool off the backing plate (thus, no heat build-up in our pad, or on your paint), a higher torque motor to eliminate stalling, an ergonomic top handle, and an easy-to-reach side on/off switch, plus your hands will enjoy much less vibration from the orbital

e) Cyclo Polisher, you will achieve hand-rubbed quality at a much faster rate. There is no chance of heat build-up so there is no chance of burning the paint. You get a professional swirl free finish. Specs: 6.5 lbs, 3,200 OPM, heavy-duty cast aluminium, 60 cycle, 1/3 HP, 2.0 amps, 115V, 60Hz Cyclo Polisher

IMO the Porter-Cable sander has many better rivals but thanks to Autopia / Megs has become the de rigeur paint buffer. I don't have much time for the ' Tooltime Tim' adapted UDM

1953- Cyclo U.S.A commenced operations in 1953 manufacturing their unique twin head orbital action polisher designed specifically for the aircraft and aerospace industries. In a short space of time the Cyclo polisher (together with the various polishes) established itself as the standard aircraft polishing system throughout the world and is now used by virtually every airline and aircraft manufacturer

In the mid 1970’s the Cyclo machine was discovered by the automotive industry, and was such an instant success in resolving the paint problems of the auto motive industry that it is now the approved machine for all Ford, General Motors, Toyota, Lexus, Hyundai and Nissan dealer outlets in the U.S.A.

A US power tool company, Porter-Cable that was established in 1914, started to manufacture an electrically operated random orbital sander (1990s) now one of the most used tools for professional and enthusiast detailer’s Velcro backed backing plates and foam pads were introduced for use with both high-speed rotary and random orbital buffers

My choice- (in no particular order)
Cyclo
Flex XC 3401 VRG
Rotex - RO125

(not a random orbital) - Makita 9227 C X3 (aka 9227)

[bobmcol]

wow togwt! Wish i knew you at school, you could've done ALL my homework!

[bobmcol]

Hocky man, i was asking generally. Do you use a dewalt rotary? ANy good?

[Squeak Squad]

The only reason I use a PC is because I don't have (enough) air on my mobile rig and don't have a fixed location for pneumatic DA's or I'd use them.
I'm not complaining about my PC, I just prefer pneumatic ones.

[TOGWT]

Originally Posted by bobmcol

Hocky man, i was asking generally. Do you use a dewalt rotary? ANy good?

Makita 9227 C X3 (aka 9227) 7" Electronic Sander / Polisher

This polisher is fast and powerful for clear coat finishes, and its variable-speed dial (from 600 to 3,000 RPM) gives you maximum control for buffing applications. The electronic speed control maintains constant speed under load. Best of all, this tool converts from polisher to sander in a snap. For continuous use at one speed, just click the lock-on button and you're ready to sand for hours.

Specification-
10 Amps Motor
Variable-speed: 0-3000 RPM
5/8- inch - 11 UNC
Electronic speed control
Weighs 6.6 lbs
-Easily converts from polisher to sander with hook & loop accessories
-Lock-on button for continuous use at one speed

The 9227C-X3 includes: a side handle, wrap handle and a Hex wrench - $200 http://detailersdomain.com/index.asp...rodID=183&HS=1

[TOGWT]

Originally Posted by bobmcol

wow togwt! Wish i knew you at school, you could've done ALL my homework!

Writing papers / thesis for other students is how I got through college and got to be a writer in the first place

(Note - they supplied a draft / concepts and I put it into words (so there was no cheating)

[bobmcol]

If at first you don't succeed, cheat! Thanks alot togwt.
Squeak... why do you prefer pnumatic ones? Recommendation?

[Squeak Squad]

I just used pneumatic DA's when I did body work. They seem to work better and are built stronger and are far more powerful. Plus something running off air usually has less that can go wrong or burn up. So long as you oil it properly.

[bobmcol]

ah. i see. but there is the additional cost of compressor. Pros and cons!

[agentf1]

Don't forget about the Makita BO 6040 which is a nice dual purpose machine that is an orbital but has a direct drive mode that mimics a rotary. It is a real nice compromise for somebody instead of buying both a rotary and orbital. It has much more power than most orbital buffers and can actually do paint correction but yet still orbits giving you a swirl free finish that orbitals are known for. I have a PC 7336sp, Makita 9227 rotary and a Makita BO6040. If I can get away with just using the 6040 it tends to cut back on my clean up time since it does not splatter nearly as much as my rotary.